Monday, December 13, 2004
Hot Stove Entry 2
Well, its time to discuss all the deals the Mariners are reported to have in the works. They haven't done much, but pretty soon I'm sure we'll all have something to complain about. I need to get my criticisism out now so I can say "I told you so" in my future pretend conversations with Bill Bavasi.
Dan Wilson, 1 year, 1.75. I said it before, I'll say it again. Good for Dan. Yes, he should be spending Saturday afternoons at the golf course instead of the ballpark, but he's put in a good decade for the M's, and with the insane money flying around this winter, why not give him a good chunk as a thank you on his way out the door. And he could be a good influece for Olivo and the young pitchers - and it probably means we're not bringing back Pat Borders.
Richie Sexson, 4 years, 40, or 44, or 48, or 50 million. This is just crazy. Insane. Jeff Sullivan over at Leone For Third can give you a good summary of his injury status; I'll just say that it's enough to scare any reasonable person away. But then, we're talking about the Mariners' management. There is just no way this is good. He was is entering his age 30 season, missed nearly all of last year, and was never better than Jay Buhner. Now, I loved Jay, but would i sign him at 30 to a 4 year contract worth 10-12 million per, after missing an entire year with a bum shoulder? no way. And to top it off, we may be putting Sexon and his 6'8'' frame in left, where he will surely stink, and the first time he crashes into the wall or, god forbid, dives, his shoulder will burst open like a (fill in your simile). And if we really wanted a left fielder, couldn't we have fleeced Kenny Williams again before the Brewers pulled of the Podsednik and Luis Viscaino for Carlos Lee boondoggle?
Richie Sexson, 4 years, 40, or 44, or 48, or 50 million. This is just awesome!!! The Mariners are missing out on Delgado, who is pricing himself out, and LA may or may not be back in the Beltre Sweepstakes, and is where Beltre prefers to land (er, remain). So Bavasi may be feeling the pressure of losing out on all his targets, and needs to up the ante to lock up Sexon. If we miss on Sexon, Delgado, and Beltre, we still probably won't pursue Beltran, and the Mariners will lose 100 games next year. Would you be happier with that, especially since the 25 million or so saved from this year doesn't go back into next year's payroll? Surely, the Mariners would have to make an acception to their odd accounting and pump some of it into next year's budget. But really, do you want to see that happen? Like everyone else, I feel I could be a better gm than most of them out there, and talk about how I would lock up Beltre, and throw a couple million more at Delgado just to avoid getting stuck with wasting 50 million on Sexon, or, better yet, get Clement, and trade Randy Winn (or better yet, Ibanez), for Nick Johnson (Washington is apparanlty open to offers, and not asking for much). But there are only a limited number of legitimate bats out there, and the Mariners definitely need some. If Sexson is healthy, he would help the offense, and the M's need to take a chance. (Ok, that felt terrible writing about how it could be a good move. I couldn't even make it sound all that good. After writing it, I think we really should offer whatever Beltre wants, sign Clement, even if he wants 3 and ~25, and trade for Nick Johnson, if we can't land Delgado at a somewhat reasonable price. Johnson makes about $1 million, has shown potential when healthy to be a 25 hr, .400+ obp guy, and the Nationals don't seem to want much for him - seriously, check out that link. Jorge Sosa?)
Delgado for god knows how much. I think he could be a good signing - certainly better than Sexon - as long as its not at his 4 year, $64 million asking price. What is he thinking? I'd try for something like 3 years 36 million, with an option for a fourth year at 14 million with a 3 million buyout. That gives him either 3 years, 39 million, or 4 years and 50. Worth it, considering our other options. Unless, of course, we can signe beltre and clement and trade for nick johnson (i'm too lazy to continue capitalizing my proper nouns. sorry if i offend and grammar fanatics).
Randy Winn for Kazuo Matsui. Like Jeff Shaw, I don't think this is so bad. Its a short term solution while Lopez gets some needed at bats in AAA, and I think he can only be better than last year. It was his first year in america, and he battled a bunch of nagging injuries. I would prefer to move Ibanez, but I can't get everything on my list, can I.
Jeromy Burnitz, for at least a bag of peanuts. Insane. Peanuts are full of great omega-3 fats, and are a delicious snack while watching bad left-handed hitters hit the long ball in Coors Field.
Edit: 10:18 Mariners time, 12/14 - ussmariner has it going down. yes, it. Sexson and Delgado. Good lord, what have we gotten ourselves into. I prefer the bad gm who didn't waste money to the bad gm that does. I think.
Edit: 10:22 - the linked story cited on ussmariner doesn't have it going down. Just about the same story mlb.com ran yesterday, but this time they used the word "nearly." and italicize it!
Dan Wilson, 1 year, 1.75. I said it before, I'll say it again. Good for Dan. Yes, he should be spending Saturday afternoons at the golf course instead of the ballpark, but he's put in a good decade for the M's, and with the insane money flying around this winter, why not give him a good chunk as a thank you on his way out the door. And he could be a good influece for Olivo and the young pitchers - and it probably means we're not bringing back Pat Borders.
Richie Sexson, 4 years, 40, or 44, or 48, or 50 million. This is just crazy. Insane. Jeff Sullivan over at Leone For Third can give you a good summary of his injury status; I'll just say that it's enough to scare any reasonable person away. But then, we're talking about the Mariners' management. There is just no way this is good. He was is entering his age 30 season, missed nearly all of last year, and was never better than Jay Buhner. Now, I loved Jay, but would i sign him at 30 to a 4 year contract worth 10-12 million per, after missing an entire year with a bum shoulder? no way. And to top it off, we may be putting Sexon and his 6'8'' frame in left, where he will surely stink, and the first time he crashes into the wall or, god forbid, dives, his shoulder will burst open like a (fill in your simile). And if we really wanted a left fielder, couldn't we have fleeced Kenny Williams again before the Brewers pulled of the Podsednik and Luis Viscaino for Carlos Lee boondoggle?
Richie Sexson, 4 years, 40, or 44, or 48, or 50 million. This is just awesome!!! The Mariners are missing out on Delgado, who is pricing himself out, and LA may or may not be back in the Beltre Sweepstakes, and is where Beltre prefers to land (er, remain). So Bavasi may be feeling the pressure of losing out on all his targets, and needs to up the ante to lock up Sexon. If we miss on Sexon, Delgado, and Beltre, we still probably won't pursue Beltran, and the Mariners will lose 100 games next year. Would you be happier with that, especially since the 25 million or so saved from this year doesn't go back into next year's payroll? Surely, the Mariners would have to make an acception to their odd accounting and pump some of it into next year's budget. But really, do you want to see that happen? Like everyone else, I feel I could be a better gm than most of them out there, and talk about how I would lock up Beltre, and throw a couple million more at Delgado just to avoid getting stuck with wasting 50 million on Sexon, or, better yet, get Clement, and trade Randy Winn (or better yet, Ibanez), for Nick Johnson (Washington is apparanlty open to offers, and not asking for much). But there are only a limited number of legitimate bats out there, and the Mariners definitely need some. If Sexson is healthy, he would help the offense, and the M's need to take a chance. (Ok, that felt terrible writing about how it could be a good move. I couldn't even make it sound all that good. After writing it, I think we really should offer whatever Beltre wants, sign Clement, even if he wants 3 and ~25, and trade for Nick Johnson, if we can't land Delgado at a somewhat reasonable price. Johnson makes about $1 million, has shown potential when healthy to be a 25 hr, .400+ obp guy, and the Nationals don't seem to want much for him - seriously, check out that link. Jorge Sosa?)
Delgado for god knows how much. I think he could be a good signing - certainly better than Sexon - as long as its not at his 4 year, $64 million asking price. What is he thinking? I'd try for something like 3 years 36 million, with an option for a fourth year at 14 million with a 3 million buyout. That gives him either 3 years, 39 million, or 4 years and 50. Worth it, considering our other options. Unless, of course, we can signe beltre and clement and trade for nick johnson (i'm too lazy to continue capitalizing my proper nouns. sorry if i offend and grammar fanatics).
Randy Winn for Kazuo Matsui. Like Jeff Shaw, I don't think this is so bad. Its a short term solution while Lopez gets some needed at bats in AAA, and I think he can only be better than last year. It was his first year in america, and he battled a bunch of nagging injuries. I would prefer to move Ibanez, but I can't get everything on my list, can I.
Jeromy Burnitz, for at least a bag of peanuts. Insane. Peanuts are full of great omega-3 fats, and are a delicious snack while watching bad left-handed hitters hit the long ball in Coors Field.
Edit: 10:18 Mariners time, 12/14 - ussmariner has it going down. yes, it. Sexson and Delgado. Good lord, what have we gotten ourselves into. I prefer the bad gm who didn't waste money to the bad gm that does. I think.
Edit: 10:22 - the linked story cited on ussmariner doesn't have it going down. Just about the same story mlb.com ran yesterday, but this time they used the word "nearly." and italicize it!
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